- November 14, 2021 at 11:04 pm #3359LucioPazParticipant
This Paul Brewer lawsuit reminds me of something. Does anyone else remember when a bunch of people left BT in the late 1980s or early 90s due to allegations of sexual abuse perpetrated by Pastor Cymbala? Whatever happened with all that? How did the leadership handle it? Did anyone ever speak up? Were those claims reported to authorities? Was there an investigation?
- November 15, 2021 at 10:47 am #3362ministryworkerParticipant
That would not surprise me @LucioPaz. Look at Paul’s case…this has been happening since the 70s. Maybe that exodus is what Paul W was referring to here:
The whole family has major issues along these same lines. I won’t go into it but suffice it to say they do their best to look squeaky clean, but there are major issues throughout that entire family. It’s way worse than Netflix in the print room.
People are going to remember what happened to them. It’s only a matter of time. You can’t buy rugs big enough to sweep this under.
- November 16, 2021 at 12:16 pm #3364
oh this hurts my heart.
I am thinking through things I saw over the years and i missed the signs. Daniel impaglia gave me a book years ago by clair Hutchins and some other minister. There were things in that book that never sat right with me. I wonder if i still have a copy of it in my basement somewhere
- November 17, 2021 at 10:23 pm #3366LucioPazParticipant
Man I get it. This stuff is incomprehensible. Your right, we need to reassess everything we thought we knew. Can you find that book? Curious to know if the things that did not sit right with you before will be the same now. That history section of the website trailing Clair’s history and who he ministered with is troubling to say the least. I can’t believe I didn’t see these things before.
- November 20, 2021 at 12:29 pm #3367Paul WParticipant
How long before the pastors of BT start apologizing for “enabling an abusive pattern and silencing victims’ voices” ???
Don’t worry pastors (term used lightly) your $$$ retirement will be intact. Until people found out what you have collectively known and collectively done. When did Cymbala cut off your manhood?
For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing a holy service for God.
The ministry founded by Christian conciliator Judy Dabler is now apologizing for “enabling an abusive pattern and silencing victims’ voices.”https://t.co/Z3BpLIezCH
— Christianity Today (@CTmagazine) November 17, 2021
- December 11, 2021 at 1:58 pm #3376BTF AdminModerator
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- January 2, 2022 at 2:11 am #3645
I want to thank you all for your support. I appreciate your emails and kind messages. That I have not revealed the perpetrators is an over simplification of the sexual abuse that occurred at BT.
The church sexually trafficked children to church members and other perverts.
Jim Cymbala was 100% behind this with my father and other church members. Carol Cymbala, Rina Gatdula, and other Sunday school teachers were not only aware, but were a part of the process in trafficking children.
The abuse occurred in the basement of 17 Smith Street, the apartments located in church building, Deacons’ homes from the sister church in New Jersey, and various locations throughout New York City.
I have also spoke to other victims as well, including a female who had her vagina repaired as a toddler.
- January 2, 2022 at 3:46 am #3647
I encourage you all to go reread “Fresh Wind and Fire “
Now that you know the sexual abuse I survived and countless others at the hands of Jim Cymbala take the time to ask yourself – why did Jim Cymbala write about a man coming into the church with a gun about sexual abuse ??
I know there were many accusations before mine and after. And the people who filters those messages have always been and always will be Jim secretaries
- January 2, 2022 at 1:05 pm #3649
My mistake 17 Smith is current address
BT was on Atlantic Ave at the time
- January 2, 2022 at 7:07 pm #3662ministryworkerParticipant
You are right…it makes sense that the address was on Atlantic Avenue during that time.
It’s terrifying that the just built a new children’s center 2 levels down in the church basement. Dear Jesus…protect those children.
I am speechless regarding the testimony you just told of the little girl. It’s really hard to wrap my mind around. But I think of all the other girls that have been called “spiritual daughters” and how they have left the church. I can’t imagine the stories…
I believe you. Many believe you. And many will believe the others’ stories as well…as shocking as they may be.
Paul, Jesus was misrepresented to you. By words you may have heard and certainly through the trauma you had to endure. If you haven’t already, I pray one day you may come to trust in the True and Living Savior who loves you.
…in grief, sorrow, and prayer
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